I know I can go in the layout editor and add things around the required sign in page, I dont want that, I want to know where the physical file is as I need to completely edit the whole design...
I just removed your duplicate post for this same topic as it will make a more confusing forum with two of the same topic. Please provide more details of what you want to do as "design" means theme or could mean style css. Did you mean that or something else?
I want to change the ACTUAL PAGE like the PHYSICAL .html or .tpl file or whatever... where is that file..
I have not found it yet and looked in the application folder but I get lost from there...
I think you mean the user login page. And since we have no idea of what you want to do, it's harder to help but you'll want to look in application/modules/User/Form/login.php and application/modules/User/views/scripts/auth/login.tpl . Good luck as it's a bit complicated if you don't know the coding. Note that this will be editing source files and will not be covered by support should site issues result from changes made. Also note that you are editing the auth files and as such could create vulnerabilities for your site. SocialEngine assumes no responsibility from issues caused should you edit these files and you assume all risks from such editing. We strongly recommend hiring an expert for editing these pages.